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Old 10-09-2008, 03:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How do you know when to use what? =) Please read 'n help a beginner? THX!

Where in the shoe do you decide what system to use (FREE SYSTEMS)?
So when, at what point, or how many hands, would you say "Hey, that's a streaky shoe" or "Hey, that's a choppy shoe"?

Too many times I've seen her start out choppy and then get streaky like mad.

Just a few weeks ago I got back from Sam's Town and Eldorado in Shreveport.... WHAT STRANGE SHOES. One had a 4-4-3-3-4-4 chop.. killed me, didn't know WHAT to do. I have broken even many times and lost only twice, once including this trip... This was the first trip I tried the free method out on.

I couldn't get past ten units. I won only 3 shoes out of 11. I mean I only lost a couple hundred, but still, I think I'm doing everything right, and quit in the 4th quarter of each shoe.

Any suggestions, Mr. Ellis? Anyone? THANKS A MILLION, (+ or - 2 units).

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Old 12-06-2008, 02:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you know when to use what? =) Please read 'n help a beginner? THX!

I see you didn't have any replies! Maybe they replied private - I don't know. I just got on the Forum and haven't seen the Free System. Did you read my other posts? Think about it. It's free because it doesn't work! It may work for some, for awhile but eventually it will fail. Free systems are just a teaser to get you to cough up $500 bucks!

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Old 12-10-2008, 10:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you know when to use what? =) Please read 'n help a beginner? THX!

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I see you didn't have any replies! Maybe they replied private - I don't know. I just got on the Forum and haven't seen the Free System. Did you read my other posts? Think about it. It's free because it doesn't work! It may work for some, for awhile but eventually it will fail. Free systems are just a teaser to get you to cough up $500 bucks!

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Old 12-11-2008, 12:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you know when to use what? =) Please read 'n help a beginner? THX!

Hi Rod
I'm kind of new too but try using a running count of Opposites and Repeats(O/R) for each column of 20 plays.. Plus 1 for an O and minus 1 for a repeat. Plus is choppy, minus is streaky.
So, e.g., BBPBPPPB would be 0 (don't know what came before first bank),-1(B,a repeat),0(P,an opposite), +1(B, an opposite),+2(P,ditto),+1, 0, +1 (4 Os-3Rs=+1)

Using the free systems, play N12340 in chop and N120 in streak. By limiting the progression to 2, you're betting unopposed on the tail ends of 3 and 4 runs.

Btw, 443344 is streaky, not choppy. E.g.

O/R
B 0
B -1
B -2
B -3
P -2
P -3
P -4
P -5
B -4
B -5
B -6
P -5
P -6
etc.
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you know when to use what? =) Please read 'n help a beginner? THX!

Hi Rod,

Great advice from gablaw. I really suggest you study how to play U2HiSA the "best" version as outlined in the "Free Stuff" thread. It will teach you how to recognize streaky or chopy and when to bet what. It will show you how to track whats occuring more often, 3's or 4's in a row and what to do.

Basically if 4's or more are greater that 3's, once the shoe shows you a three in a row, you jump on that side with a 1 unit bet (or 2, which is more aggressive), without having nything on the other side. You stay oon that side until you lose. After you lose you go back to the normal way of play.

Plus it is a 2Hi system, meaning your largest bet at anytime will not be larger that 2 units of whatever you're playing.

Thats how I learned and played until I won the $500 to join as a full member. By the way, I won my $500 using that free system in my first day of play.

Hope this helps. Take care.

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Old 12-11-2008, 07:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Pay no attention to Archer guys. Pay attention only to people who identify themselves and let you watch them in the casino. When a poster won't identify themselves or let you watch them play, there is a good reason.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you know when to use what? =) Please read 'n help a beginner? THX!

Hi Rod,

Take Ellis advice, thought I have no idea about this Mr Archer.
Ellis is the Guru here .. and he is in the midst of helping me with my little crisis ... and this is free of course ... and I am in the process of understanding and trying the new advices given to me on my real recorded games .. and am slowly and clearly see how wise he is ...

My advice, trust a Professor of Math is better than a rookie degree heh .. =P

Ciao !
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