Archer is Wrong! - Page 3 - Beat The Casino Forums "Where The Pros Are"

Archer · 12-13-2008, 01:13 AM

I am not a "paying" member either. For good reason. I have seen a dozen of Ellis' famous winning methods. They don't work. Maybe he wins - but not with his static systems.

That's a nice letter and I understand that the game flows and some win. I know a lady who has doubled her bankroll 6 times over the last couple years. She has no particular system except her own idea of what is going on. Maybe it takes the creative part to win for some.

I know Ellis is trying hard to win. It is the way he goes about it. He says he has a winning method that anyone can learn and win -but he doesn't. If he just sold a membership to players who wanted to try and win and join a group for fun and hope to learn, study, win, fine that would be cool. But he doesn't do that. He just hooks people in with his baloney. But you are right. Ellis has an awful reputation among the gambling community - for good reason!

Anyway, Ellis will have John cut me off soon. I don't care - I made my point.

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Originally Posted by ksshing

Hi Arch,

I am not a member but I just would like to point out something here IMO :

There is not a single system that work for all,
just like our religion, at different time, different place for diffferent people (like you and me and others), we need different religion to believe in (unless you are a free thinker).

So, it apply here, whether your system is right or good enough, we only need one system to be successful. And I guess that's why Ellis and the rest is working hard here to make sure the SAP system can work according at different time, different situation, different etc. Things is not just static in our life (or in the game and casino will make sure of that, if not Vegas will be down in a week !).

I have been following all your posts here with all the statistics and explanation which I don't have any idea at all since my brain is working in the creative part and not the logic part, but again, we ONLY need to believe in one system that work for us, and believing it is important. I did lose some money with the free system here, maybe I din understand it deeply, or experience enough, but i know in anything, theory is always 100% right, but when put into practical, other things count, like discipline, emotion, etc, and all this can't be put into statistics.

And everything one thing good that you do, there will be 5 negatives that follow through. Like Ellis, I dont know him at all, and I even search the webs and found lotsa negative articles about him and his sytem, well to me, up to this point, he haven't cheat me anything yet, and if you are saying his free system is cheating here, that wouldn't be right. There is a Chinese proverbs "If the cow insist not to drink the water, no matter how hard you pust his neck, it will not go down"... or in plain sentence, "a single hand won't clap!"

So, if you wanna help, esp people like us, give us some free good advice, and I believe everyone who is reading in the public forum is not dumb, this is 21st century, and we are all educated people who can think and make our own judgement ..

Cheers!
KS

**aldny** · 12-13-2008, 02:31 AM

Archer,

Actually I did not have to respond to your posts because I could'nt care less about you or whatever you have to say. So far you have nothing of concrete value to offer besides a little of mumbo jumbo which I'm tired of hearing over the years from people like you with little to offer.

What annoys me about you barging in and continually "making your point" which up to now I still don't have any idea to what exactly is, that you're trying to insult us especially paying members for your continual argument as if we are all idiots to have paid Ellis for the membership to get more insight about the game. If that's how you believe, just keep it to yourself otherwise you can do better by standing at the entrance of a casino and start telling people who go in there that they are idiots for playing in casinos where the they don't have a chance of winning. That would be a sure bet that you will get punched in the face for being that annoying. What you are doing here is giving unsolicited advice and doing it continually is called harrasment.

Just for your contentment, whatever you've said never changed my belief in trying to extract any useful information even if I have to pay for it to better my chance or at least enjoy more the passion in gaming. It will be my decision to believe who has the right information and so far you don't even come close to Ellis.

You may have something with Ellis from before and trying to get back at him by bad mouthing him, but it's for me to decide and so far you're not that convincing at all.

Show me the money...(a lot of paying members are already doing so...proof of the pudding)

AL

12-13-2008, 02:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
aldny Universal Bac Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: Archer is Wrong! Archer, Actually I did not have to respond to your posts because I could'nt care less about you or whatever you have to say. So far you have nothing of concrete value to offer besides a little of mumbo jumbo which I'm tired of hearing over the years from people like you with little to offer. What annoys me about you barging in and continually "making your point" which up to now I still don't have any idea to what exactly is, that you're trying to insult us especially paying members for your continual argument as if we are all idiots to have paid Ellis for the membership to get more insight about the game. If that's how you believe, just keep it to yourself otherwise you can do better by standing at the entrance of a casino and start telling people who go in there that they are idiots for playing in casinos where the they don't have a chance of winning. That would be a sure bet that you will get punched in the face for being that annoying. What you are doing here is giving unsolicited advice and doing it continually is called harrasment. Just for your contentment, whatever you've said never changed my belief in trying to extract any useful information even if I have to pay for it to better my chance or at least enjoy more the passion in gaming. It will be my decision to believe who has the right information and so far you don't even come close to Ellis. You may have something with Ellis from before and trying to get back at him by bad mouthing him, but it's for me to decide and so far you're not that convincing at all. Show me the money...(a lot of paying members are already doing so...proof of the pudding) AL

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