How To Order ? What To Expect ?? - Beat The Casino Forums "Where The Pros Are"

**ksshing** · 12-26-2008, 05:50 AM

Hello Ellis / Keith

Instead of trying here and there, guess it is time for me to practise the SAP and master it in no matter what shoe pattern it is.

I have confident in your system, which make me some money here.

Can you please let me know how to place an order for your system ?
And what can I expect upon paying for it ?
I will use Paypal to do the online payment.

Kindly advice.

Thanks.
KS

**nizm0racer** · 12-26-2008, 06:37 AM

Wow I'm sorry Baccaratkid but you don't understand how these systems work yet to the fullest. I one was just like you and thought hell what if this was a scam? I decided to go for it since I've been playing bac since I was 18 (almost 24 now) trying to find that right formula to beat the casinos and I haven't found anything like what these guys are talking about ever on the internet nor will you find it anywhere else but BTC.

**nizm0racer** · 12-26-2008, 07:16 AM

I haven't read much of your posts but what do you propose on the table then?

**ksshing** · 12-26-2008, 08:35 AM

Hi Nizm,

After you make the payment, what you will get immediately ?
Coz once pay, do you receive any email for a manual or something ?

Let me know.

Thanks
KS

**heike_l** · 12-26-2008, 09:26 AM

Hoy KS,

After the one time payment, you will have instant access to the private forum area for the rest of your life... you will find everything you need right there. You can even use your current username and password from the free forum so you don't have to wait for any confirmation emails and what not.

Not only will you be able to witness what is probably the biggest treasure of baccarat knowledge in the world... you will also join a group of friendly people, ready to assist you in any possible way they can.

Whenever you're ready... welcome aboard!

Warm Regards,
Heike

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksshing

Hi Nizm,

After you make the payment, what you will get immediately ?
Coz once pay, do you receive any email for a manual or something ?

Let me know.

Thanks
KS

**Probac** · 12-26-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thebaccaratkid

learn the skill of betting opposite people trying to beat the game

if there are 2 other players on the table and one of them bets B and the other bets P with same bet size, how would you bet 'opposite' them? or do you skip that hand, or change table?

also how do you bet 'opposite people' when you are the only player against the dealer?

***aegis21*** · 12-28-2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thebaccaratkid

Oh i give up the questions are pointless to answer because your not at all interested

Good answer bac boy................ not!

***aegis21*** · 12-28-2008, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thebaccaratkid

yep theres always a joker in the pack some where !!

Say john whats your total profit in units since you started with these systems ?

Not a hard question to answer is it ?

I used to track w/l's, units per session, units per trip, etc. I kept a LOT of stats. I haven't been keeping stats since they are all positive over the past five years. Unless it is a new system I am testing, then it warrants keeping stats on. So to answer that is not possible from my stand point. I could say I am up 40 units on the system I am currently testing. But that would really not be answering the question accurately. I would have to have my prior five years of profits to add to this and then it would be accurate.
Sorry for not being able to answer this question correctly. The bottom line is my bankroll is the same as is was 5 years ago and that includes many withdrawals for things like paying for daughters wedding, cars etc. So I can say I am on the positive side of expectations.
Oh I have lost money in the stock market, hedge funds and 401k retirement plan. Now those are high risk bets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anything else you would like to know?

**KIDDO** · 12-29-2008, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegis21

I used to track w/l's, units per session, units per trip, etc. I kept a LOT of stats. I haven't been keeping stats since they are all positive over the past five years. Unless it is a new system I am testing, then it warrants keeping stats on. So to answer that is not possible from my stand point. I could say I am up 40 units on the system I am currently testing. But that would really not be answering the question accurately. I would have to have my prior five years of profits to add to this and then it would be accurate.
Sorry for not being able to answer this question correctly. The bottom line is my bankroll is the same as is was 5 years ago and that includes many withdrawals for things like paying for daughters wedding, cars etc. So I can say I am on the positive side of expectations.
Oh I have lost money in the stock market, hedge funds and 401k retirement plan. Now those are high risk bets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anything else you would like to know?

Ouch I'm only down 235k from this crashing market my house fund is gone... Hopefully crude oil will go backs up in the summer

**E. Clifton Davis** · 12-31-2008, 08:21 AM

Ksshing, you are a private member now, right?

Just so you guys know, thebackid has been dismissed from both forums. He's the third person in 20 yrs. we had to dismiss. As I intimated, we did comp his membership expecting that he would tell us more about how he plays. But when he got to the private forum all he did was taunt everyone and never said a word about how he plays nor even try to learn our ways. We quickly realized he had no system and knows nothing about Bac.

He even criticized Kiddo's performance. Kiddo is up $140,000 in 4 days of play, 31 shoes, W/O ever betting more than 2 units, playing our SAP system in Vegas. It was the best display of Bacmanship the world has ever seen. Any real Bac player would know that. Anyone dumb enough to criticize such performance obviously has no idea of what they are talking about. Then when you add the fact that thebackid could not answer a single question about his method we could only deduce that he is a complete phony trying to make a splash on the internet just like many others.

Betting against a losing player is nothing new. That method is at least 400 years old. The problem is that people quickly realize you are betting against them. There is no way to hide the fact. Their first reaction is to change whatever they are doing. There goes the ballgame!

About 90% of players play that way. Think about it. If it worked, 90% of the players would be winning. There would be no Baccarat, would there. When it comes to thebaccaratkid I think you have to put the emphasis on "kid".

12-26-2008, 05:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
ksshing Universal Bac Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 73 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0 Rep Power: 12	How To Order ? What To Expect ?? Hello Ellis / Keith Instead of trying here and there, guess it is time for me to practise the SAP and master it in no matter what shoe pattern it is. I have confident in your system, which make me some money here. Can you please let me know how to place an order for your system ? And what can I expect upon paying for it ? I will use Paypal to do the online payment. Kindly advice. Thanks. KS

12-26-2008, 06:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
nizm0racer Universal Bac Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 78 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0 Rep Power: 12	Re: How To Order ? What To Expect ?? Wow I'm sorry Baccaratkid but you don't understand how these systems work yet to the fullest. I one was just like you and thought hell what if this was a scam? I decided to go for it since I've been playing bac since I was 18 (almost 24 now) trying to find that right formula to beat the casinos and I haven't found anything like what these guys are talking about ever on the internet nor will you find it anywhere else but BTC.

12-26-2008, 07:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
nizm0racer Universal Bac Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 78 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0 Rep Power: 12	Re: How To Order ? What To Expect ?? I haven't read much of your posts but what do you propose on the table then?

12-26-2008, 08:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
ksshing Universal Bac Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 73 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0 Rep Power: 12	Re: How To Order ? What To Expect ?? Hi Nizm, After you make the payment, what you will get immediately ? Coz once pay, do you receive any email for a manual or something ? Let me know. Thanks KS

12-31-2008, 08:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
E. Clifton Davis Professional Player \| Co-Founder Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,189 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Rep Power: 135	Re: How To Order ? What To Expect ?? Ksshing, you are a private member now, right? Just so you guys know, thebackid has been dismissed from both forums. He's the third person in 20 yrs. we had to dismiss. As I intimated, we did comp his membership expecting that he would tell us more about how he plays. But when he got to the private forum all he did was taunt everyone and never said a word about how he plays nor even try to learn our ways. We quickly realized he had no system and knows nothing about Bac. He even criticized Kiddo's performance. Kiddo is up $140,000 in 4 days of play, 31 shoes, W/O ever betting more than 2 units, playing our SAP system in Vegas. It was the best display of Bacmanship the world has ever seen. Any real Bac player would know that. Anyone dumb enough to criticize such performance obviously has no idea of what they are talking about. Then when you add the fact that thebackid could not answer a single question about his method we could only deduce that he is a complete phony trying to make a splash on the internet just like many others. Betting against a losing player is nothing new. That method is at least 400 years old. The problem is that people quickly realize you are betting against them. There is no way to hide the fact. Their first reaction is to change whatever they are doing. There goes the ballgame! About 90% of players play that way. Think about it. If it worked, 90% of the players would be winning. There would be no Baccarat, would there. When it comes to thebaccaratkid I think you have to put the emphasis on "kid". __________________ BeatTheCasino ellis@beatthecasino.com Last edited by E. Clifton Davis; 12-31-2008 at 08:23 AM.

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