Mad Dog

I was hitting hard 17 yesterday and it worked out quite well. I do it during the low rounds. There was a crowd watching and they were going nuts. It was funny. I hit 18 once also, but I broke. I do this when I think there is no way to win the hand, and I can't surrender because I've already taken a hit card. I also do it when I am advantage betting and I'm on a low bet and I want to burn cards to draw a clump of tens closer. In that situation I have been known to hit 19. I used to do it head to head, betting $5 on the low bet and $500 on the high bet. Believe me when I tell you, that'll draw you some heat. I have never hit twenty, but I've wanted to. Maybe I just don't have the balls.

It takes me a while to get in the right game but it sure is fun when a game turns good. Yesterday I hovered with one pile of twelve for a while, sometimes making it to two, sometimes giving back. Then at one point the game turned good and just took off. I have heard Ellis remark on this. I think it has to do with the presence of an NBJ player at third. Maybe God or Ellis knows why this happens, but I sure don't.

I carry with me a little slip of paper with multiples of fibonacci numbers on it, and the eye in the sky called down to find out what it was. I was already showing it to the pit boss before they called, but I just said it's a progressive betting system, and said I'd tell them all about it if they wanted. They seemed ok at that point.

The reason I carry my little slip of paper is that things get very intense at the table and it starts raining money, and sometimes I don't raise my betting level on time. With my chart, I just count my money and look up the betting level. It tells me everything including how much to bet, and how much to lock.

I think that good communication with the floor staff is very important. The most important thing I want to hear from them is when to go easy. They chuckle when I say this, but NBJ+fibonacci will take me into orbit one day, and then they won't be chuckling. A little communication up front will go a long way later.

I tipped them 10% as usual. I was telling the pit boss that the reason I tip was that I was a guest and I wanted to remain welcome, and he said I was very generous and assured me that I was welcome. He said he wished more people thought the way I do (regarding tipping).

I am thinking I will tip 20% on really huge wins when they arise.

I tip the cocktail waitresses very well, and some of them are signed up to do recon for me. I talked to one of them yesterday and she seemed to understand the idea that when a table goes good it stays good for a while. It seemed to square with her experience. I just love having meaningful conversations with beautiful, scantily clad babes.

I also tip the casino host at check out time; they are comping me for everything. This tip is given discretely. I take a hundred dollar bill and fold it into a little square and palm it. Then I go to shake the host's hand, and voila.

I always tip the cage person something. I am looking for a way to tip the manager guy but I haven't figured out how to do that. Maybe the handshake thing will work there. I think having friends in the cage might be very helpful.

CarlosM

I get so excited when I hear these stories. Especially from you! Awsome!!!
How many decks was that game? Vegas? What are their rules? Wash or no wash? Shuffle type? Pick size? Tight, regular or loose intertwine? Stripping or not? Penetration? Do they plug the cut off cards? If yes, how? Do they ever change the intertwine or pick size as shoes go on? For any reason? To change the game type to try to beat you? Or to break a player bias for the other players? If successful, do they resume to their standard intertwine and pick size?

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Mad Dog

I was playing six decks against a "One-two-six" wheel type shuffle machine in Vegas. I wonder if they ever command the machine to shuffle differently. I think this would be a closely held secret. The cards are clumped. The other players say no way, since the machine purportedly shuffles continuously. But I, Mad Dog, tell you that they are clumped. It is what makes it possible for me to win. It is what makes the casino do unreasonably well against the other players. They want the cards clumped, and they are indeed clumped.

This casino does not seem to sweat my action. I do not see any countermeasures. They are curious about me, and sometimes ask questions. I always answer straightforwardly and forthrightly. I think this is the best policy.

Sometimes I can almost feel the deck turning good. I think maybe it has to do with the middle cards. I think that if they are clumped with the tens or the lows, then the game is not so good, but if they are clumped with each other, the game is good.

I left a good game when a fifth player arrived. I have learned the hard way that I can't do well at a crowded table.

Also, I have learned to switch to advantage betting when a group of players leaves the table. The clumping becomes too great to sustain the progression style of betting, but it is an easy victory with advantage betting as taught in NBJ.

chuck24

I can recognize that this NBJ is counter to everything i've learned but can't imagine anyone hitting 19-20 when that's a winning hand most of the time.
Adv betting. Can you explain that some, or is it something super secret. I have read in various places that NBJ, is pretty good and also not so good. Then I read stuff like this and damn if i know who to blve. Anyway, guys, you tell it great and i hope it's really that way. I have really no reson to doubt you except from other things i've read. I'm sure you understand it gets pretty damn confusing. If any of you play downtown i'd sure like to watch you in action.

Keith Smith

What they don't tell you a lot of times is we may play a sacrifice hand, one with the money and the other to feed the dealer the cards we want him to get.

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chuck24

Keith, that's new one too. Kinda unblvble in a way. I'd sure like to watch someone play this way. Care to weigh in on adv betting while you're at it? You don't have to give away any secrets just a description and why do you switch from one bet strategy to another? Sounds intriguing.

chuck24

Maddog, i'd like to watch your action sometimes. i live in Vegas. If adv betting(whatever it is) so good, why not stick with it? Not critisizing, just trying to learn.

Mad Dog

Yes hitting 19 is extreme, and among NBJ players I am the only one that does it (that I know of). PLEASE understand that I only do this when the ratio between my high and low bets is EXTREME. Like 100 to 1. Don't let my extreme method bewilder you. The low rounds completely don't matter with a ratio like that. Nevertheless, sometimes I would hit 19 and draw the deuce, and people would go bananas, even though I only had $5 out. Then, those very same people would not be impressed at all when I would win $500 playing very conservatively on one hand because the tens had arrived.

The thing to remember is that I was winning the high bets. I would goof around with the low bets all I wanted. I would also surrender when I had a 20, and the dealer was showing a 6. Why? Because a clump of tens had arrived, and I wanted to stop cards from coming out of the shoe, end the hand, and raise my bet to $500. So when I surrendered, it was tactical retreat so that I could sock it to them on the high bet. Understand?

The conditions were head to head, extreme clumping etc. Please understand I did these aggressive things for a reason even if you don't understand completely what my reasoning was. In a broad sense, NBJ teaches us to react to the situation at hand. I developed this technique to handle a certain situation. It was devastatingly effective, and very flashy. A little too flashy as it turned out.

So in summary, I hit hard 17 when I am certain that the dealer has me beat, and I want to take a shot at the hand. I also hit 17, 18 and 19 when I am sacrificing a hand to set things up for a high bet on the following hand.

I did not read this in the NBJ manual, but the philosophy of NBJ is to do all things conducive for victory. I think my method is easily misunderstood by persons who don't understand the whole picture. Please try to understand that my bet spread was so high that it made the $5 bet negligible.

chuck24

Maddog, no. 1, i don't see how you can get a spread of $5 to $500 and win without getting 86'd. I got 86'd several yrs ago by playing a little short count and little money. $5 to $20 spread and winning just a hundred bucks or so got me 86'd out of 3 casinos so don't see how you're flying under the radar especially making moves that would brand you as a counter whether you are or not.
Maddog says he didn't read the NBJ manual. I'd like to hear others' stories that did read the manual. And I'd like to witness some play, seems like i'm being avoided on this request.

Mad Dog

I am playing at the big strip casinos, and they let you play just about any bet spread you want.

I did indeed read the NBJ manual. The bizarre things I am describing are not in the manual; they were developed by me to handle certain situations. Please do not paraphrase me by saying I did not read the NBJ manual. Please read my posts more carefully.

I am open to you observing me in action sometime in the next month. I do not play downtown, I only play in the big name strip casinos, midweek. You can private message me with your contact info. Getting barred for a $100 win seems very odd.