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Betting Online, Live Betting ]]> Sports Betting rickypeta http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6883 <![CDATA[Tonight's free online seminar postponed]]> http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6881&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 21:10:40 GMT Folks, tonight's seminar had to be postponed. Ellis has to stay in the hospital for a day for testing. Best of luck to Ellis
Ron D ]]> Blackjack rond http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6881 I’m back from a Las Vegas trip - applying my signaling system with NOR http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6880&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 03:37:05 GMT I’m back from a Las Vegas trip with substantial winning units at the Baccarat games. About half of the winnings I gave back playing other gambling games. I drew a conclusion that Baccarat should be my only game at the Casinos. I basically took the NOR approach to its next level by extending its... I’m back from a Las Vegas trip with substantial winning units at the Baccarat games. About half of the winnings I gave back playing other gambling games. I drew a conclusion that Baccarat should be my only game at the Casinos.

I basically took the NOR approach to its next level by extending its approach using signaling flow marked on a score card as each hand is dealt out/played. It basically will “alert” the player to stay or play the next upcoming hand. You must practice and be able to record both the NOR and the signaling method. It requires hours of practice. You can't marked mistakes on the score cards...

As we all know with the NOR approach HE/SHE must play every hand. In times losses are taking place leading us to navigate in the majority of the time to an approach called OTR (On The Run) using light progression of 1,2 or 1,2,3. It's all relative to your bankroll along with your Stop/Loss (Most of the time -8 should be OK) and Take/profit goals (+10 to +15 depending on how the shoe runs).

Not sure how some of the visitors/members on this website got my email address. I’m flooded with emails requesting to share the NOR and along with my signaling system.

Here is my response:

First of all the NOR system is copyrighted and I don’t have a way to confirm that it has been legally purchased by a player.

Secondly and I’m not trying to be rude, my signaling approach along with NOR is at its early development stages and requires more work. However, it did great during the games in Las Vegas and Atlantic City.

Above and beyond, I’ll not shift away players from the original approach called NOR.

John (New York City) ]]> Baccarat jrhelp007 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6880 <![CDATA[Comments on "Ellis plays NOR Baccarat" (On YouTube).]]> http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6879&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 03:09:40 GMT While on my flight trip to Las Vegas, I watched on my computer a YouTube video "Ellis plays NOR Baccarat".

You can view the game on the Internet at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WEw...feature=fvwrel

A student read Ellis hand by hand a game which took place on June 4, at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Biloxi, MS.

The Game started with two players followed by two bankers. The O/R count for the first four hands was at -1. Also based on the four hands you could easily classify the beginning of the game as Two’s. Meaning that system S40 which is designed for choppy shoes will not be qualified for now. Therefore, if you studied the F2, F3 and OTB4L you could easily assigned those systems to the game. Above and beyond, the best system qualified for this type of shoe is an old system called OTB4L. Why? Because OTB4L favorite is two’s!

During the demonstrated game Ellis has been disrupted by one or two of his students leading to several error in the game, which I’ll not comment in this post.

In the majority of the time Ellis goals & objective in a Baccarat game is to reach +10 units.

I attached a snapshot picture from the Video where I point out an error made in the calculation of the score. Ellis assumed that he reached is goal (+10) but the +10 has been reached at the next hand.

Reaching the +10 unit could off taken place much earlier in the game, but as I stated one or two students kept confusing Ellis and themselves as to which side the next bet should be taking place. In another words the “carrots were telling the Gardner how to plant the seeds”.

I attached the chart with the proper score.

Thank you Ellis for helping us out there to improve our game using an approach called NOR.

John (New York City).
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I am new to blackjack. I am curious about precision blackjack. Can anyone explain it in detail how is it work and does is it work on pontoon? ]]> Blackjack Ivan heng http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6857 About Clumping by Ellis http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6855&goto=newpost Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:35:10 GMT Basic Strategy actually beats random cards. Therefore to destroy Basic Strategy casino orchestrated clumping has been going on right under our noses for 30 years.

Why?

Casinos aren't stupid. They know and have known right along that Basic Strategy beats random cards.

So casinos had two choices, to either clump the cards making them non random or stop presenting BJ altogether. So they came up with a neat trick that clumps the cards and destroys Basic Strategy. They pick up the break cards first. Bingo! This clumps the cards and the more the cards are played and the more players in the game the more the cards clump.

Sure, the casino party line is they pick yp the break cards first to avoid accidently paying off a broke hand. That is laughable and an insult to dealers everywhere. How often do you see a dealer paying off a losing hand? Like maybe never?

How does picking up the break cards first clump the cards?

Simple: Picture a 7 player game plus the dealer. Four players break. What do we know about their cards in general? They are mostly low cards aren't they. If they were high they wouldn't have hit in the first place. We also know that their last card was a 6 or more (or they wouldn't have broke.) So the dealer picks up these mostly low cards and puts them in the discard rack as a large mostly low card clump.

Now, what is left on the table? Mostly tens, right. Now the dealer picks up this large mostly tens clump and puts it right on top of the low card clump.

BUT you say, the cards are going to be shuffled. Ha, right but it would take all day to shuffle out those clumps. What happens when like clumps get shuffled with like clumps? You end up with clumps twice as long. And remember, they keep doing this all day long. Voila, Basic Strategy is destroyed because it was designed assuming random cards.

So how can you possibly beat that. Well, you can't! Unless we teach you how to use this same information to YOUR advantage. And that is exactly what we teach you.

So how long is a clump? It can be anything from 5 cards to 50. But your best bet is to bet it will last forever. That way you will be right more than you are wrong and think about it - isn't that what BJ is all about???

Are clumps clean? Sometimes and sometimes they are dirty. And sometimes the cards will come out hi lo hi lo hi lo. That happens when a high clump gets shuffled with a lo clump.

Isn't that cheating? Not if you are on the casino's side of the table.

What can we do about it? Nothing! Nor would you want to because we will show you how to use it to beat them at their own game. ]]> Blackjack E. Clifton Davis http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6855 Back in Atlantic City.Arrived at the Hilton Casino. Up with +5 units at a slow game. http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6851&goto=newpost Tue, 24 Apr 2012 01:16:13 GMT Hello everyone.

Back in Atlantic City, arrived at the Hilton Casino.

At the Hilton Casino, 2nd floor, several baccarat tables were opened. All games were mini baccarat style. The dealer deals player and banker hands. The minimum bet at the table was $25 with 5% commission applies to banker's winning hand.

Two tables were full and the third table had 3 players, I sat at the table as the 4th player. The game was in progress, about 20 hands dealt into a choppy shoe. So I missed the “ATTACK” using the S40 system.

The floor person was flirting with the dealer at the other table so no much attention was taking place at our table.
I don’t know why but I felt something is strange about the dealer on my table. The way she was dealing the cards and approaching the players bet you could swear that she is new to this game. I believe she was struggling to apply “her knowledge of the baccarat game and its rules”. Well, I was correct. Here is what took place in the next few hands?

3 players betting, I’m observing. The player side was dealt 4 2, Banker J 1. In Baccarat, the rules call for the player to stand. Meaning, no more cards should be dealt to the player hand. But the dealer made a mistake and dealt a card to the player side, a nine (9). At the same time she dealt another card to the banker a Q (queen). The dealer announced players win and collected the bets from the table.
The 3 players which were betting on the Banker went nuts. They started raising their voices mumbling in Chinese and pointing fingers to the dealer.

The dealer called the floor person. The PIT Boss and a security guard walked over to the table as well. The dealer was trying to explain what took place at the last hand while the 3 players were shouting loud words in a foreign language. The PIT Boss asked them to come down while attempting to listen to the dealer’s story. Next the Pit Boss recalled the 6 cards from the mock. He also called surveillance asking to review the tape and explain them over the phone what took place.

The Casino admitted that the dealer made an error and the card with a value of 9 was supposed to be dealt to the baker side. But since the Pit Boss and surveillance were able to recreate the hands, a decision has been made that the player is the winner against the banker 6:0. The card value of 9 was used for the banker. The queen card was placed back into the mock and was considered as a fouled card. A player from another table came over to help in translating to the 3 players Casino’s decision.

The 3 players left the table shouting on the Dealer and the Pit Boss as the exit the dragon room. I was left alone with the dealer. So before the Pit Boss went to file an incident report, I asked if it’s ok for the dealer to reshuffle the cards or use the second set of cards (8 decks) located inside the Master Shuffler machine. To my surprise he agreed to use the second set. I purchased 20 units of $25 each. luckily a new dealer arrived. Two new players joined the table as well.

Note: I forgot to mention that for the weekend trip I already practiced about 55 shoes to include F2, F3’s and was ready to exploit the game above and beyond the S40 approach. Who knows I may go OTR (On The Run).

It was time for dinner, but I decided to play one shoe. My goal and objective was to win +10 unit. My stop/loss was set to -8 units.

The game started slow. No one wanted to start betting. I always wait for 2 to 3 hands sometimes more before I decide which system should be applied to the shoe/game?

Attached please find the my play at the Hilton. Slow game which generated +5 units.

GOD Bless,

John
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]]> Baccarat jrhelp007 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6851 New Blackjack Seminar - From the comfort of your home http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6849&goto=newpost Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:27:43 GMT By popular request I have secured the GoToMeeting training interface. You will be able to see a live video of Ellis speaking and also utilize a dial in number to hear or use the VOIP option on your computer to hear us. Ellis will be flying up on the 18th of May and we will be broadcasting from my... By popular request I have secured the GoToMeeting training interface. You will be able to see a live video of Ellis speaking and also utilize a dial in number to hear or use the VOIP option on your computer to hear us. Ellis will be flying up on the 18th of May and we will be broadcasting from my house on the 19th.

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