[QUOTE=daytrader77459;30587]Hello, Ellis,

I wanted to attach a few shoes that HawaiiAl and Way2Fast and myself played over the Jan 6-9 wknd this new year at Aria and MGM. I believe these examples (hopefully the scanned images are readable for study and review and comments) show positively how ROBUST your NOR approach is - especially using the basic 112 and 123 progressions - and then pushing to 234 on winning series. I welcome comments from all BTC members.

However - personally for me - the best part of that wknd was to meet up with HawaiiAl and Way2Fast. Disclosure - I am primarily an Exploit SAP player and generally have a difficult time playing many hds per shoe. There are shoes where "sniper baccarat" is impossible - enter on losing trades, missing out winning trades. The power of NOR is that it forces the player to survive and filter weak shoes - and play strong bias/disparity to have high winning %. In this manner, I believe NOR is a significant tool for all players.

HawaiiAl and Way2Fast - these are two fantastic individuals and very solid NOR players! Let me describe briefly the critical success factors I observed during 2 solid days of playing and study with HawaiiAl and Way2Fast:

1. Most important tool = mental flexibility and attitude. Excellent sense of humor, patience, ability to enjoy betting and execution of NOR. No PAIN or FEAR associated with intermittent losses and drawdowns within shoes. I believe that players WITHOUT patience, humor, relaxation - CANNOT WIN in gambling.
2. Detailed study and application of NOR systems. I observed only occasional deviations/errors from the NOR plans. Occasionally due to errors - otherwise due to a difference in interpretation of the shoe at hand.
3. Adequate bankroll capital. Primarily using a 112 or 123 progression - both HawaiiAl and Way2Fast had more than adequate capital (and hence no desperation) to play thru the entire wknd.
4. Ability to wait - and identify the primary NOR shoe type - BEFORE engaging a single bet.

Ellis - you have done a fantastic job for all players with your SAP, NOR bacc systems! But just as important - you have also established some fun social networks amongst BTC members. This makes playing all the more enjoyable when we are playing NOR together.

2nd disclosure - I am NOT (yet?) playing every hd as called for by NOR. This is my personal "evolution" - don't know if possible, but well worth the fun journey. Playing with HawaiiAl and Way2Fast provides some conditioning for me as well!

Finally - also greetings to NormA - who I've played on many occasions (another fine and considerate BTC excellent player). NormA primarily plays SAP and bets focused on either LCs or MCs.

BTC members - take your time looking thru the enclosed shoes. Thanks to Way2Fast to provide these scanned images. Both HawaiiAl and Way2Fast played nearly identical for all shoes shown.

Later - I will add comments to my own observations and deviations/interpretations of some of these shoes.

Ellis- thanks again for a great baccarat community - and for your SAP and NOR ongoing research and explorations!

Regards,

Daytrader77459

PS - Way2Fast, HawaiiAl - look forward to see you both again very soon for more "evolution" training! :)