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    I have been on many baccarat discussions forums lurking, but now I am compelled to ask for some advice on this system that I have. I will use a variant of a martingale trying to win 100 dollars a day and leaving once I win one bet. I have a 5 step progression to do this for example: 100/200/400/800/1600. I want to accomplish this by supreme bet selection, by being patient enough to wait an hour just to make one bet. My uncle's friend use this system in Macau with success, but wonder if I can do this in the states. Any honest feedback would be much appreciated.

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    Well first I doubt if anything I say will dissuade you. You would be far better off to learn NOR and NOR+ right here because it is based on taking advantage of casino shuffles and shuffle machines - a true advantage.

    A 5 step progression, no matter what you make the numbers, is 50/50. Sorry, but there is no way around that purely mathematical fact. Any true mathematician will tell you that.

    No matter how long you wait, where allowed, the odds of your bet are still 50/50 - another unalterable mathematical fact. "My Uncle's friend!" That is the same as saying: "rumor has it that....." There are lots of rumors surrounding Baccarat. Everybody plays according to some rumor they heard - yet they all lose - including your Uncle's friend.

    Do yourself a favor. There are no shortcuts. Learn how to win right here. There is no other place. Any member here will tell you that. They've tried them all. Learn here. Then you can teach your Uncle and his friend.
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    Thank you for taking your time to respond, as I don't think I explained myself properly. I'm not here to promote/sell anything or come across as a pretentious gambler that knows everything. Just to clear this up it's not a rumor. My uncle is there with his friend when he goes to the casino. There are more details to story that I am leaving out and don't intend to be long winded. I know it doesn't make sense statistically but it did work for him. I just wanted a friendly discussion.

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    Whats the "Supreme Bet Selection" method.......and the triggers when to bet ?

    Whats the whole story/method you want to try ?

    That may generate some answers to your questions !

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    Quote Originally Posted by final04 View Post
    Thank you for taking your time to respond, as I don't think I explained myself properly. I'm not here to promote/sell anything or come across as a pretentious gambler that knows everything. Just to clear this up it's not a rumor. My uncle is there with his friend when he goes to the casino. There are more details to story that I am leaving out and don't intend to be long winded. I know it doesn't make sense statistically but it did work for him. I just wanted a friendly discussion.
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    as another has mentioned, your long term success will depend on the "supreme bet selection" and not on the bet progression.


    Quote Originally Posted by final04 View Post
    I have been on many baccarat discussions forums lurking, but now I am compelled to ask for some advice on this system that I have. I will use a variant of a martingale trying to win 100 dollars a day and leaving once I win one bet. I have a 5 step progression to do this for example: 100/200/400/800/1600. I want to accomplish this by supreme bet selection, by being patient enough to wait an hour just to make one bet. My uncle's friend use this system in Macau with success, but wonder if I can do this in the states. Any honest feedback would be much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by final04 View Post
    I want to accomplish this by supreme bet selection, by being patient enough to wait an hour just to make one bet.
    Final04,

    As yes, the "supreme bet selection" method. On the surface it would appear that you will be waiting for "something" to happer (a trigger) which will certainly guarantee you a winning wager.

    Good idea in theory, but it's the actual execution of same that throws everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by final04 View Post
    My uncle's friend use this system in Macau with success, but wonder if I can do this in the states. Any honest feedback would be much appreciated.
    Well, if it works in Macau, it should work on any baccarat table. Be sure and pony up with $3000 and hope that you don't pick 5 poor supreme choices!

    Seriously, EVERYONE on this forum has seen 5 losses in a row come up almost DAILY. Whatever your trigger might be, the actual wager is what counts and no matter what pattern you choose, it will produce 5 losers sooner or later.

    I would recommend you take a step back, work on your details a bit more and give it another try in a more realistic environment.

    It's a good group of players here and they will be more than willing to help, assuming you're not basing your entire success on a 5 step Martingale, no matter what the "trigger of success" may be.

    Thanks for posting up. A good discussion is always welcome.

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    Like Ellis says join the NOR+ form and you will easily make your modest win with much less exposure and a lot less time. If your base bet were $25 then $100 would be 4 units. Most of the guys try to make 20 units per shoe. You would probably be at the casino for 20-30 hands and be out the door with your money.

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    well, if the supreme bets work, you could be out the door in less than 6 hands at the expense of more exposure.
    so the question is can the supreme bets always provide a win within 5 hands.

    That said, I'd rather spend 2hrs to get $100 using $5 units than risk a $1600 bet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baccarat A View Post
    Like Ellis says join the NOR+ form and you will easily make your modest win with much less exposure and a lot less time. If your base bet were $25 then $100 would be 4 units. Most of the guys try to make 20 units per shoe. You would probably be at the casino for 20-30 hands and be out the door with your money.

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    Look Final04, what the guys are trying to tell you is that there is no such thing as a supreme bet. Elvis is dead and there are no leprechauns. I don't care if you wait 2 hours or 2 days, the next bet is always 50/50 no matter what came before it. You are chasing a myth. There are no short cuts. Those are the facts of the matter.

    Bacarrat has been around for 400 years and scrutinized by many an expert. If there were such a thing as a supreme bet, don't you think it would have been discovered long ago.

    Not to mention the fact that no casino is going to allow you to use up a seat and not bet for 2 hours. This reduces you to back betting which many casinos do not allow.

    But your posts do inspire conversation. You wanted an honest answer and that is what you got. There are no short cuts. The notion of supreme bets is laughable. You have been duped. Sorry but that is the real fact of the matter.
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