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    Look, as any Mathematician worth his salt will tell you Baccarat cannot be beat by Math. Math gives you no edge. But those same
    Mathematicians will also tell you that the very high Casino Baccarat profits - 15% - 26% of all your buy-in money cannot be explained
    by the 1.25% commission casinos charge to deal the cards. Casino profits are far higher than commission would dictate. In fact
    Baccarat is consistently the highest profit game in the casino. In fact, casinos could eliminate commission altogether, as Horseshoe tried,
    and Bac would still be the highest profit game in the casino. How is this possible in a supposedly 50/50 game plus commission???
    Answer: Only one answer is possible: Tried and true Casino tactics learned from years of experience.

    Like BJ, a game totally corrupted by casino tactics, there is only one way to win - To understand the tactics deployed against you
    and use the casino's own tactics against them.

    Your blogger here simply does not grasp that basic fact of gambling. You MUST have an edge. But Math can't give you one.

    I CAN! But I can't always play for you. I CAN teach you IF you are willing to put in the effort required. Some do! We have
    many record keeping winning players on this forum that play units anywhere from $5 to $5000. This proves beyond reasonable doubt
    that Baccarat CAN be beat by perfectly normal students.

    And others write blogs and blame their woes on anything except where the blame actually belongs - on themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack991 View Post
    ok guys first thing is that its not me who sead that,i just saw that on the blog and i see that u know that guy...its normal that peopls are not sure in that because there are many systems on the net and all of them are scums...and its not easy to give 600 like that...i would be very happy to talk with you , shere shoes come to seminars and so on...but im in serbia ( europe) and here we cant buy things on internet and america is far :) so all i can do is to figure out my own system :)
    Good grief! A Serb! Nobody ever gives me easy problems to solve any more.

    OK, here is what you do:

    First learn what an Opposite is and what a Repeat is:

    An Opposite is when the opposite side wins relative to the prior play.
    A Repeat is when the same side wins again.

    Keep a running count +1 for an Opposite and -1 for a Repeat.

    All shoes, at the end favored either Opposites (a + count) or Repeats (a - count).

    You job is to figure out early in the shoe which way the shoe at hand is headed.

    If the count favors + you flat bet Opposites

    If the count favors - you flat bet Repeats.

    Some shoes won't favor either - the count keeps going back and forth across 0.
    In this case, don't bet at a 0 count. But bet that the count will head toward 0.
    See that?

    Don't be greedy - just go for one or 2 units and quit.

    As you get better at this you can increase you goal to 3 or 4 units but no more than that.

    If you want to make more money you are better off to increase your unit size.

    When you've made enough money, then buy NOR with your winnings
    and we will teach you how to really play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack991 View Post
    only problem is when u pick up neutral shoe, and u bet flat...you go in - like that...
    That is correct and tells me you know more than I thought so let's go another step..

    In a neutral shoe you need to be betting OTB4L. That is opposite to what won the hand before last. A simpler way to
    accomplish that is to bet that an opposite will follow a repeat and a repeat will follow an opposite. That puts you
    mostly in tune with a neutral shoe. Now long runs either straight or ZZ will hurt you. You could opt to go on such runs
    but W/O further training, your best bet might be to stop betting whenever you lose 2 bets in a row and wait for the run to end.
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    Guys! You bet AGAINST the least common and ON the most common.

    For instance: Let's say 2s and 4+s are least common while 3s are most common.

    You would bet that 2s will go to 3 and 3 will stay 3. See that?
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    Hi Ellis

    Thanks for your reply. I just signed up for the webinar and I think that your idea of limiting it to the new start rule(s) is a good one. It sounds like, from your posts, that there is more to it than the information that has been posted so far. Also, may I suggest you include System Selection as a secondary topic since it seems to me that the two are somewhat interrelated.

    Also, for me, I absolutely love your Sat/Sun idea for the next Las Vegas seminar. I would definitely sign up for both days (seminar & group play) either individually or as a package deal.

    Also, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for everything that you have taught me (and others.) I do not post much, but I can tell you that after years of floundering (mostly with the Benson systems) the first NOR seminar I attended in 2011 was a revelation. Since then I have been able to take my Baccarat play to levels I only dreamed about and with a confidence I never had before. It's been hard work and the learning never stops, but NOR, and it's variations, has been worth it to me. For that, I will be eternally grateful.

    Thanks again.
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    So Blackjack 991, do you play BJ?
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    Originally Posted by CdnChamer

    Hey Ellis, great to see that you are really excited and that goes for me too! NOR / NOR+ has been a
    great success for me in the past few months. I am a quiet person at the tables and the dealers all know me well at my local casinos
    to the extent that they peer over to see my card as to what I am doing and I' now had three dealers request that I teach them,
    of course I decline and believe or not... Three weeks ago, one dealer asked me if I was playing NOR! I REPLIED..."no".
    I was actually playing NOR+. So I didn't lie. He scratched his head and said it sure looks like NOR I don't know if he is a member
    but he did volunteer info that he is confused as to what what bias to play, so I left it at that and continued to play quietly and win
    as usual.

    BUT NOW... 4D , ok. You have my attention... I would like to learn more about this and a sample card layout would be helpful.

    FYI, my wife now knows that I am making money at bac and she was delighted when I showed her my secret bankroll and gave
    her a portion of it in cash to pay for our Vacation in Hawaii of which is where I am now. I plan to go to Vegas in Dec so if there
    are any members there I would like to meet and exchange ideas with, Also.... We plan to go to HK again and do a short trip to
    Maccau again and play some Bac there and hopefully meet with members there.

    LIFE IS GOOD. And I'm sure I will be traveling more often now... Gee this 4D sounds like it will be light years from the aging
    "Twister" concept back in 2008. Remember that Ellis?


    Oh... G2G. Wife wants to go out to the beach!

    CC
    This is all music to my ears CC! In fact I think I'll place a copy in the public forum. But even the newer members, your
    post will build their confidence and provide a picture of what lies ahead for them. I had just got finished telling the members
    that we have MANY members who seldom post. They are playing well and would rather spend their time playing. But I often
    hear from them and I often play with them.

    You learned that trick from me didn't you - giving a portion of your winnings to your wife after each trip. That way, instead of
    complaining that you're leaving yet again, they tend to kick you out of the house.

    CC and everyone: You get to a stage where what you are doing becomes interesting to everyone around the table -
    players, dealers and pit bosses alike. Just tell them to go to "beatthecasino - all one word". We like to get members that way and
    we like to have experienced dealers on our forum. MANY of them play too! And we pick their brains as much as they pick ours.
    We always have several dealers on the forum. They teach us about their side of the table. No, I'm not concerned about them
    learning our secrets. Unlike the common streak and chop systems on the internet, there is no casino defense for NOR.

    In fact if you have some beatthecasino name cards made up you can say "tell them who recommended you" and you get a hefty
    sponser commission. I frequently pass out such cards in the casino.

    Yes CC, I certainly remember Twister. It was all part of the evolution how we got to where we are. And just because we are the
    most advanced Baccarat forum in the world, doesn't mean we won't advance even further.
    We've been in uncharted waters a long time now.
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